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Oh, yes. Sure--well, of course. During his last seven
years, I was the chairman--the last seven years of his life. And the
previous fifteen, I was a publisher of the biggest chunk of Time
Okay. We're talking about people who influenced him now, and his
relationships with people. Why don't you describe Clare's influence
on him--and on the company, if she had any.
Well, it was an interesting relationship, because, on the
one hand, she was a very bright, very intellectual woman, and was a
very good journalist, and had good ideas, and had married Luce, I am
sure, with a thought that she would play an important role in Time
Incorporated. In fact, it was nearly--he nearly promised her that.
That, as the books have explained, did not happen, and she held that
against him for the rest of his life, and she held it against
Donovan and me after Harry was dead.
How did you know that?
Because she went around telling people what a lousy job we
She bad-mouthed the company, and she bad-mouthed the management.
She bad-mouthed the management. If you're Luce's widow,
and you bad-mouth the new management, that carries considerable
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