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weight. Harry stiff-armed her from the company, and she resented it all the time. But, in their own twin relationship, she was forever telling him what to do, or making suggestions about the company. And I'm quite sure that he did a lot of listening, because it seemed to me that sometimes what I was hearing didn't sound like Harry Luce, but sounded like somebody else, and I had to say to myself, “It was Clare.”

But Harry Luce was careful not to say, “Clare thinks” this or that?

Oh, no. He would never say Clare--

He would never mention--

He would never mentioned her. Well, sometimes he would say, “Well, Clare had a great idea” about something. Sometimes. But not very often.

Well, what was her influence on him? In other words, what were the kinds of things she would be pushing for?

Well, in the first place she changed his life as a persona. Before that, he had not been very social; he had not been an important personality sort of in his own right. He and Clare became social lions, political personalities--all the symptoms of power were brought together in their two personalities. And, you