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Yes, Gaylord Freeman was hopping on it a lot.
Yes. He was First Chicago.
For First National Bank of Chicago.
Yes. He was a great organization man, and, unfortunately,
[laughs] he left his bank in total shambles--unlike Harry.
Go ahead. Who else was pushing?
Well, Rawleigh Warner was quite strong, and I think Tom
Watson was. Tom became my--he was really my advisor on the board.
He didn't say much at board meetings, but he was always available for
me to just talk at and to talk to.
Rawleigh Warner, Chairman of Mobil, Tom Watson of IBM.
Tom had by then retired from IBM because he'd had a
heart--he'd had a very bad heart attack. Anyhow, at some point they
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