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had to--Jim did have the heart attack, the second heart attack--
Linen, which did put him in a wheelchair, from which he
has never recoveréd.
But that was after he was no longer president.
Now--interesting that there was no board pressure when Luce died
in 1967 to get a C.E.O.? I mean, it seems like there were two more
years after Luce died where this triumvirate operated.
Yes, there was some pressure. I can't remember just how
much. It wasn't sufficient to move me. What moved me was the Linen
situation. And I wasn't trying to be C.E.O., I was trying to resolve
What was Donovan's view of your becoming C.E.O.? Here, for the
first time, he would not be your equal, or would he?
Yes. Well, he maintained his independence as editor-in-
chief reporting to the board. That got sort of written into the
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