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I see.

--I wasn't trying to bring my buddies in, or anything of that kind.

Any memorable meetings, either of the Overseers or the Corporation? A meeting that just stands out in your mind?

[short silence]. I can't--no, I can't remember any. One--digressing a bit, it used to be that the Corporation was very much sort of a Boston family. And people keep saying to me: “It's a very collegial little club, isn't it? You all see each other all the time”--and so on so on. Well, we never see each other outside of--

The meetings?

The meetings. Which would surprise anybody who knows much about Harvard.

What about the 350 million dollars capital drive? Did you get involved in that?

Yes. There were three people who were running it. Bill Rothchild, the man who got me in; Al Gordon of Kidder, Peabody--now Kidder, Peabody [laughter]; and Bob Stone, Bob Stone being the major one. We never could get anybody to run the corporate part of the