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microphone. So, all they had to do was, at some time during the night, when they had access to my office, to reverse the feed and, in effect, whatever I was saying in the room was being heard by anybody who wanted to tap in on that loudspeaker. It shouldn't surprise me because, I guess, in labor negotiations everything is fair. But, I did have some of my most intimate conversations about things in places other than my office. Sometimes I'd just go out on the street and talk to somebody.

So, in effect, you did this from the very beginning of the time you were at CBS.

Yes.

Did Bill Paley think -- Did you ever discuss this with Bill Paley?

I told him that I was persuaded that on occasion I had been recorded or monitored, and that I thought he ought to keep that in mind if he had anything he was talking about that was highly sensitive. Whether he did anything about it or not I don't know. But, if you stop to think about it, it shouldn't surprise anybody that someone in the communications business, having traffic both with Washington and news, would be watched by somebody. I never knew who it was but I always assumed, from those experiences, that it was an open circuit and I shouldn't be surprised if I were recorded.

It's interesting that you put it that way, because I am from a generation that's sort of a wiretapped generation, but it did surprise me, when I went back, to think that in the forties and the fifties somebody would also be doing this. Would you have any guess as to who it