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This is Mary Marshall Clark. This is June 15, 1993. I am in the office of Dr. Frank
Stanton in New York City, conducting a twelfth session of his oral history interview. Dr.
Good morning to you.
Last time we talked a little about President Johnson and your fact-finding tour to
Vietnam early in the administration, I believe it was, maybe in 1964 or something like
that. You said when you came back from that tour, you told him that you thought we
should get out of Vietnam. I wondered if your perspectives, over time, changed about that.
You mean that we shouldn't have gotten out?
Yes. Or did you think--
No, it didn't change; but I didn't pursue it with the President, because I didn't
feel that he was open to. [Telephone rings] I didn't pursue it with him. He was the kind of
guy--or at least I felt he was--that once you've had a discussion with him about something
and you got his viewpoint and he got yours, there's no point in just being a nag about it.
And I had no solid inputs, other than the feeling that one had--and which is not too easy--to
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