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double, I don't spend much time with television any more. I haven't for the last couple of years. I have--late at night when I'm home alone--taken to listening to talk stations on radio, and I don't think those programs would be enhanced one bit by having to sit in front of a television screen. But at any rate, that's one man's opinion.

But it's still live conversation. It's not something you get on Internet. That's what I'm really talking about: it's a live exchange.

Although on some of the bulletin boards, you get some pretty lively-- [Q. laughs]

Well, I should ask you--do you play with the computer a lot?

Sure. [Q. laughs] In fact, I'm just going down after lunch and buy one for a brother-in-law that's retired and says there's nothing to do. I'm going to send him a computer, with a modem, and let him start getting his fingers wet. He'll have something to do.

He'll have plenty to do.

Absolutely. His wife will probably not thank me for it.

No, she'll never see him again.

But it's like eating peanuts, you know. [Laughs]