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You did like the house, because she liked it? You didn't like it on--What do you mean exactly?

I didn't dislike it, I just didn't have the investment in time that she had. As I say, she knew where every adjustment was on the air-conditioning system or the furnace or this or that, and taking care of a house is not an easy chore, if you take care of it properly.

Let me ask you something. It's a hard question in a way. But how would your life and how would her life have been different, if you had had kids?

If we had had children?

Yes. Would it have been different?

Yes. I would have given up my job. Not given it up, but I would have downsized my business activities. And let's face it. Starting a Center for Advanced Study on the West Coast, where I was back and forth every third weekend, to make sure things were on track out there, etc., that made no sense at all. She went with me on some of the occasions, but she wasn't that enamored of the academicians that I knew. When I was in graduate school she had, not contempt, but she was not very sympathetic to some of the guys--She said, “You know, they couldn't pour it out of a boot if the directions were printed on the heel.”

She didn't respect those without common sense, it sounds like.

There were eight or nine of us who were going through the PhD mill at the time, so