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Do you think he would have had a chance to be hired today?

Sure. Certainly.

People would recognize his value.

But the talent show on television has pretty much worked its way out of the fabric. The “Talent Scouts” that [Arthur] Godfrey did was another version of it, although it was at the totally unknown pat of it. Going back to radio, Major [Edward] Bowes, if that name means anything to you, was a talent. He did an amateur hour where people came along and did their acts and the public was pulling for them because they were try-outs.

So, in the instance, for example, of Paley coming to you and saying, Who is this guy -- who was really in charge at that point of deciding who stayed in a slot? For example, what did you say to Bill Paley when he said that? Did you have the final word on what --

No. If it had ever come down to that and we'd had to say one person had the final word, it would have been Bill, because in title he was chairman and chief executive and I was president and chief operating officer. But except for the entertainment side of television or radio, he gave very little attention to anything else. I think most of the news -- although he was interested in what we did in news -- most of that --

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