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that kind.

How large was the board?

Stanton; The board? I'm guessing but I think twenty, twenty-two, something like that. Most people who were on that board never missed a meeting. It was a tremendous commitment in time and dedication as far as your participation was concerned, because you had frequently absolutely top clearance. You were at the center of the planning of the Air Force and were privy to all kinds of documents and reports as a trustee of that organization, so that one of the reasons I am having trouble in recalling some of the studies is that a lot of the stuff was classified and I'm not even sure that at this date --

Right. I understand.

But there are enough reports -- if anybody's interested -- there are enough reports on what RAND is doing and was doing.

When I was chairman, it was at a time when RAND was changing from a hundred per cent Air Force-supported organization to something less than that. My goal was to have at least half of the income for non-military projects. I wanted to get the skills of RAND applied to some of the civilian problems, and get funding from areas of government or foundations that would allow RAND to use its expertise in purely civilian endeavors.

Can you talk just in general about what type of endeavors you're referring to? In that period.