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three of us sort of divvied up the operations -- like a lot of kids -- did what had to be done and bitched about the things we didn't have time to do. When the day came that I really became president, I knew pretty much about the company. Never having worked with Paley, I didn't know what he wanted to do.

What did he want to do after the war? What were his plans?

He was mostly interested in the entertainment programming. That was pretty much it. He wasn't in the office much. He was interested in getting his divorce settled. He was already seeing a lot of his friends on the female side. Traveling a lot with them.

When you say, “wasn't in the office a lot,” did he come in for board meetings and that sort of thing?

He was there for most of the board meetings.

Did you fill him in on a daily basis? How did you communicate? How would he know what was happening in the board meetings?

There was no formal filling-in. That's for sure.

I read something somewhere about the Monday morning breakfast meetings. Did you--

No, we never had any regular meetings. We had lunch whenever we could have lunch. I was available on call. If he was there, I would call and tell him that there was