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county. And Roper was to use that material after the primary was over that night in analyzing the results of the primary. I didn't hear the entire broadcast, I only heard part of it. I was distracted. It came on at eleven o'clock, as I recall. But the next day, I was having, I believe, the next day in New York I was having lunch with Paley, and just before lunch Sig Mickelson who was then head of News, called me and said, “You're going to get an angry call from Bobby.”

And I said, “What about?”

And he said, “About our analysis last night based on the poll.”

I had no concern about the quality of the polling because it was Roper and I'd helped design the whole thing, so I thought well, when the call comes, I'll be prepared to take it. As I was sitting down at the table -- just the two of us -- with Paley, he said, “What the hell's Bobby Kennedy calling me for? He's insisting that he talk with me. And I thought I'd check and see whether you know what it's about.”

So I said, “I expect it's about the Roper broadcast and his special polling in Wisconsin that we had on the air last night.”

Paley had not caught it, so he was not familiar with it, and I explained to him what we had done. And he said, “Well, I'm not going to take the call. Why don't you handle it?”

So Lucky Pierre got the call right after lunch. I didn't have to reach for it. It was waiting for me. And I made my explanation to what we had done and stood my ground that this was a