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getting ready to do something in the way of a headquarters building--unlike a factory but something very special--and he wondered if he could borrow the book, because he didn't want to make any mistakes.

Well, we could have a whole session on that book, I'm sure.

Yes, that's gone the way of all the books I brought in from Jackson Heights. But she had no sympathy--I shouldn't say no sympathy--She was not a fan of Betty Friedan. She got to know her later, and that only intensified her feelings about--

I would hate to think one would have to be friends with Betty Friedan in order to accept feminism. But you're saying something deeper; you're saying that she wasn't really sympathetic to some of the feminist claims. Is that what you're--

That's right. So I really should not have taken on the Center for Advanced Study. There were a lot of weekends I devoted to that that we could have been together. Some of them we were together, but she was there, really, because she didn't want me out there alone. But she wasn't happy about being out there. She didn't like the urban part of the West Coast at all. She liked the natural part of the country but not the city, and she drove back and forth across the country, oh, I guess, a half a dozen times. She enjoyed every filling station she went in and country store. We'd stop and get food and she'd do a picnic, and we'd sort of eat in the car, in preference to trying to go someplace where we could have gotten, probably, a fancier meal.

What was she like politically? How would you describe her politically? How did she vote,