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well. He was the man who developed the eye at CBS, he was an art director, and we were
What was his name?
Golden, Bill Golden. C.P. and Bill and Ruth and I did a lot of things together, crazy
things--fun things--I don't mean idiotic, but they were interesting, non-conventional things.
In fact, in the early days of television I had asked Bill to go out to the West Coast to help in
some design problems in Hollywood, and C.P. was, I guess, feeling the same way Ruth felt,
felt neglected and jumped under a subway train. The train went over her and she survived.
It didn't touch her. She was on the tracks. I had to bring Bill back immediately. I went to
the airport to get him, to tell him what had happened, and Ruth was the one who had taken
over C.P., to take care of her. So that's how close they were; yet, on the matter of principle,
Ruth broke with her.
Were there issues in your career, matters of principle, where she really swayed you in her
decisions, on various issues you had to take a stand on? Or, how much a part of the process
was she? Did you discuss ethical problems with her that you were having?
Oh, yes, sure.
Was there ever a time when she changed your mind on an issue you had to take a stand
Did she change my mind? In fact, I don't remember any time when I changed hers.
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