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No, she was very strong. Somebody asked me not too long ago--I took a strong stand against the “Selling of the Pentagon” situation.
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I guess the executive vice-president of NBC was general counsel at NBC at the time I was going through all this trouble with Congress. He's now writing a book about that period and he came in to see me and said, you know, “The strong stand for the first amendment and your very courageous effort on behalf of free speech--where did that come from?” I know exactly where it came from. It came from a conversation with Ruth.
That's so interesting. Can you locate the particular--You mean all the conversations you had together, or in particular--a particular conversation? Are you talking about the selling of the Pentagon issue?
Yes.
And she was the one--
She was the one who alerted me--I came home one night late from the office, or from some pro bono thing, walked into her dressing room where she was working--because she was always in there at night--the television set was on and she said, “You'd better pay attention to what's on the air because it's going to cause you a lot of trouble.” That was about a quarter of eleven--the broadcast was on from 10:00 to 11:00. I said I knew it was on the schedule but I hadn't read the script. So I went in and stayed with it to the end of the
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