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physician.

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Here we go. We're fine. So the second force was a young woman.

She said that she didn't think we'd have any family life. In those days physicians made house calls.

And of course you didn't work very long at CBS, you didn't do any night hours there, did you? [irony]

No! [irony] She learned later that she would've been better off with me being a physician. And I wouldn't have been a practicing physician anyway. I was much more interested in being in the field of medical research. I didn't want to teach. I didn't want to practice. I wanted to be the young Pasteur.

But that went by the boards and that's -- I guess, well, anyway, that passed although because of those early days of pre-medic training out of Wesleyan. I guess I have learned a little bit in the direction of helping in the area of medicine. The Red Cross certainly was in that direction. And I'm on the dean's council at Harvard in the school of Public Health. And I guess I would be qualified to say that I'm a pretty close friend of the dean of the medical school. And so forth and so on. Those associations, I think, in part grew out of that early period when I thought I'd be running around with a stethoscope and a white coat.