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Well, when you decided not to pursue your medical research career, you became interested, and of course I'm fascinated to find out how -- you became interested in radio, and in psychology of mass communications, if that's not too fancy a term.
No, no.
What happened to you?
It wasn't known in those days.
I know it's sort of an anachronism but --
Well, I guess my first interest in radio would go back to my junior year at Ohio Wesleyan. I had edited the yearbook --
The yearbook --
At Ohio Wesleyan.
Called the -- Excuse me.
Terrible. That's a junior year activity and I had been the editor of that. And I guess again in some measure going back to my display advertising interest and so forth.
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