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this kind of responsibility. Was that true?
I don't know of anybody else. Certainly there wasn't anybody else in that company.
It was a large -- for Dayton -- it was the largest department store in the city. Exclusively
men and boy's merchandise, not household appliances, things of that kind. But I helped run
a fashion show for two years. I supervised a lot of photography, learned a lot about
photography myself. I had pretty much a free run of what I wanted to do.
Did you know when you were working that that's what -- that you wanted to be in this
kind of business, that advertising appealed to you?
Not particularly because when I began my undergraduate work I was a pre-medic
so I was going in an entirely different direction.
Before we go to that, what was the situation like — were your parents supportive of you
working at the Metropolitan -- being away from home? Did you experience any tensions with
I didn't have any trouble with them. I think they were just as -- as long as I wasn't
in trouble -- I had very little parental supervision.
No, I had a ball when I was in high school. I made a lot of money as a kid. I made more
money my senior year in high school, I believe, or certainly my freshman year in college, I
made more money working at the store, twice as much per week as I did when I first joined
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