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That's fascinating. And how much would that be?

Ninety dollars a week.

You were making?

No, I was making, I think, fifty when I joined CBS. And I was making ninety when I was working at the store. And I was knocking myself out because that was back in 1930 -- well, the ninety dollars was in '31 or '31 -- No, I think it was a little earlier and that -- but it doesn't make any difference.

Still quite a salary in those days.

No, I could buy my own clothes. I bought a car -- not an expensive one, but I had a used car that I owned. So I had a good time.

It cut me out of a lot of things, none of which I have regretted. And I don't believe it stunted my growth in any way. But I did not associate much with the kids I was in school with because there wasn't any time. And I certainly didn't get involved in sports to any degree at all. But I don't think I was denied any other things that kids generally have at that age.

My parents were very supportive. As I indicated, there was no concern about the place where I was working. It was a reputable place. I was doing interesting things. I don't have any recollection of any problems with the family. None at all. There were only two children, a