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Which was?

Nearly as I could tell, he never accepted Klauber as an equal socially. Because Klauber said, “I never crossed his threshold. I was never good enough.” And I had said to my wife, “I want no part of that life at all.” This will sound a little stuffy, I guess, for the record, but I was still an academic in many ways, and I still wanted my friends in the professional side rather than in a nightclub and social side. Ruth had never any aspirations of being the best dressed woman in the country. There was no competition there at all. So that worked in my favor. If she had been wanting to get a lot of publicity doing balls and things of that kind, it might have presented a problem, I don't know. But she didn't. And certainly, I didn't give a damn.

In fact, I guess I said to Bill one time, “You take care of the night life. And I'll take care of the day life.”

That's great.

I was dedicated to the job. So was he, in a sense. But he did the things he was interested in, and I did everything else.

So maybe I should ask the question a different way: did you have any reservations about what your working relationship might be with him? Did you have any reservations about taking the job based on --