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services, which were virtually owned by the newspapers were told, “No more giving out of information to this upstart.”


They were told that by the newspapers?


And we were denied information. Paley, with [Edward] Klauber at his elbow, decided that they'd build their own news organization, and established bureaus across the country, perhaps out of the country although I'm not too sure about that, and began beating the ears off of the newspapers because we had the news before they did. And the audience was smart enough to find us. And then at that point we made peace with the wire services and the newspapers and we were allowed to have a certain amount of their wire copy to use on the air. And we also paid for that. And that was the beginning of the wire service and the networks. At the time of the Anschluss which was what? '38, I guess. When Hitler marched into Vienna and a traveling CBS correspondent at that time was unable to get access to the wires because they were government-owned or controlled, that's when Bill [William L.] Shirer and Ed [Edward R.] Murrow, did their first -- in effect -- “World News Roundup.”

Paley and Paul White and Ed Klauber and probably in the reverse order but I was not a witness -- played the key role in that whole use of radio in World War II. NBC wasn't in even the ball park. And there wasn't anybody else but NBC.

Paley, I believe -- at least this is what he told me -- and there is some question about some of his reports -- but he told me that they called the Chancellor in Vienna on that Sunday, if it was a Sunday and I believe it was. They tried to make arrangements to get a wire out, lost the circuit because the Nazis were already taking over the chancellory, but because Paul

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