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cream of the crop. And Ralph knew the field, so did other members of the board. I had not maintained my connections to the academic world so I wasn't too helpful to Ralph on that.

But at any rate he began identifying fellows, potential fellows, and I had appointed a board committee to review the site opportunities for where we were going to locate this thing. Now, this big black book I referred to earlier had photographs, plans and so forth, for half a dozen places going -- if you think of a triangle between Boston and Washington, with a little bulge at the area around New York City, in that triangle they had identified some opportunities in the real estate world where we could house fifty fellows and operate the Center. We didn't want to locate on a campus. The reason we didn't was because the board felt the administration in many schools might be reluctant to see one of its most promising professors spend a year some place on a campus where they might fall in love with another campus, or the administration of the host institution might grab him and so forth.

The mix that we decided on was -- we wanted about a third of the members to be senior people, not elder statesmen necessarily but people who were absolutely at the head of the parade. And these were people from sociology, psychology, history, economics, the social sciences. The next third we wanted to be just about ready to move into department chairmanships and so forth. And the bottom third -- and I shouldn't say bottom, but the other third -- we wanted to be young Ph.D's just -- not quite dry behind the ears but the most promising young Ph.D.'s we could find.

So Ralph was out doing that while I had appointed a board committee to look at the site opportunities. And they were dismal. The more we looked at them, the more discouraged we were. They were defunct country club premises, other institutional assemblies of buildings that just wouldn't work for us and so forth. And I was very discouraged and didn't really