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Oh. Then, in '48, of course, I didn't have to be introduced to him, etc., so I was down there and stood in the wings while we were waiting. I can't remember now what it was about, but the funny part of that is I was also close to Dewey. Nothing like the experience I had with Truman, don't misunderstand, but after the Republican convention in Philadelphia, the Sunday after the convention, Lowell Thomas called me and said that he had seen the Governor at church, and the Governor had asked me to come over and have dinner with him. I said, “Lowell, you know where I am?” He said, “No. You're over just across the state line, aren't you, in Connecticut?” I said, “No. I'm in New York City.”

“Oh,” he said, “Gee. Well, you've got to come anyway, because I committed you. The Governor is very particular about the people he wants to see, and he wants very much to see you this evening.” I said, “Alone?” He said, “No, bring your wife. Frances [Mrs. Dewey] will be there with the Governor, and -- “ I've forgotten what Lowell's wife's name was, at the time. Anyway, I guess she was Frances too. Ruth was not -- I had just come back from the convention, and Ruth had been at the convention part of the time with me. Then I sent her back to New York to watch television, so she could tell me how we were doing. Because I had two big Dumont sets in the apartment, where she could switch from one to the other. Because it was only NBC and ourselves, and I wanted to know how we were doing, vs. NBC. I was in the convention hall, and I couldn't see any television.

So, I would call her to get a rundown, then I would have a better impression of what was going on. I had come back tired, and she wasn't very happy about having to give up Sunday evening. But, we went up to Pawling, got there, there were maybe ten or twelve